Register    Login    Forum    Search    FAQ

Board index » Mysteries of the Unknown » Myths and Legends




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Atlantis - Is it Real?
 Post Posted: November 8th, 2008, 2:49 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: October 17th, 2008, 1:36 pm
Posts: 174
Location: Toledo, OH
The first reference to this legendary advanced city and culture occurred in a Dialogue by Plato. And it seems like ever since there has been a fascination with finding it.

I've read the Dialogue in question and, to me, it seems like he was using this fictional city of Atlantis as a model in a larger point he was trying to make. Couple that with the fact that the city's ruins have never been found...even all these years later. I just think it's a fairytale. But hey, I could be wrong. Those that still seek it out claim there are waters off the coast of Greece that have never been allowed to be searched. Well, maybe it's there. I just doubt it.

Any other opinions? Is it real?


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Atlantis - Is it Real?
 Post Posted: November 8th, 2008, 3:04 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: October 16th, 2008, 2:55 am
Posts: 171
Location: Toledo, Ohio
I would like to believe it is real.
I have had a fascination with Atlantis since i was a kid.
I always imagined it to be in the Bermuda Triangle, I always linked any strange occurrences or disappearances in that area to some sort of technology Atlantis had that causes mechanics to mess up.
Ive read reports of divers only being able to dive so far down and not being able to go further for some unknown reason or unknown force keeping them from doing so.
But im still very skeptical on that as there are others who have dove there and found nothing of the sort.

Then theres the plato thing and it being located by the pillars of Hercules or whatever it was, think thats what it was.
which i think could be plausable too.

I think to say that something might not exist because we have never found any remnants of it after so many years, shouldnt really apply because people are uncovering things that have remained hidden for centuries, we are even still finding species of animals and other creatures that we previously had no knowledge of existing.
Ruins in jungles and what not always fascinated me that they were never found when i always wonder if a plane flew over it, how could they not have seen it?

But it could also go another route.
Say tomorrow some disaster happened and the majority of humanity was wiped out.
Those left alive reproduce and rebuild, But not every bit of information could be passed on to this new generation of humanity because those left behind could certainly not know everything to teach these new comers.
And over the centuries the information passed on is lost or skewed through the line.
and one day some explorer comes acrossed a book like "Harry potter" and they begin to believe that Hogwarts and all those characters were real, and a search for the ruins of Hogwarts begins.
They evolve and technology expands and they reach the point we are at now and there are documentaries following all known documents about Hogwarts and they never find it because it never existed.
The same could be said here.

I personally, am in the middle, it fascinates me and i ponder what it was like if it had existed, but at the same time i think it could be skewed information and misinterpretation from a writing of centuries ago about a place that never existed anyway.

_________________
Doin stuff thats hard to do makes the easy stuff thats hard harder than easy can ever let hard stuff be.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Atlantis - Is it Real?
 Post Posted: November 8th, 2008, 4:37 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: October 17th, 2008, 1:36 pm
Posts: 174
Location: Toledo, OH
Well put. I would certainly agree that just because it hasn't been found yet is not enough to say it never existed. As you said, new species of wildlife are being discovered even now as we write this.

I guess another thing that I've wondered about was, if it were real, where are all the other stories or references to it. The only one I personally know of is Plato's. It seems like everything else sprung from that. Now, I could be wrong. Im not as knowledgeable on the subject as I'd like to be.

Truly, I hope it's real and will someday be found. Having this hobby and the fascinations and curiosities that I do, I would absolutely be enthralled should it be discovered. I'd even gladly eat my words from when I said I didn't think it was real as it has been described. But oh boy! If one day the pillars of Hercules are unearthed and a lost city is found...I'll jump for joy!


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Atlantis - Is it Real?
 Post Posted: November 8th, 2008, 5:08 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: October 16th, 2008, 2:55 am
Posts: 171
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Phase 3 Jason wrote:
Well put. I would certainly agree that just because it hasn't been found yet is not enough to say it never existed. As you said, new species of wildlife are being discovered even now as we write this.

I guess another thing that I've wondered about was, if it were real, where are all the other stories or references to it. The only one I personally know of is Plato's. It seems like everything else sprung from that. Now, I could be wrong. Im not as knowledgeable on the subject as I'd like to be.

Truly, I hope it's real and will someday be found. Having this hobby and the fascinations and curiosities that I do, I would absolutely be enthralled should it be discovered. I'd even gladly eat my words from when I said I didn't think it was real as it has been described. But oh boy! If one day the pillars of Hercules are unearthed and a lost city is found...I'll jump for joy!


ive heard rumors that supposedly some elemental change in the earth, most likely the melting of the polar caps, will cause atlantis to emerge slightly in 2010, but then again i tracked down that information to starting in a book sylvia brown wrote, and i cant take her seriously anymore.

But the idea of it having something to do with the polar caps is actually a very good basis.
You see, there are rocks, big rocks that are located all over the world that are not from that area, they match nothing of the stone in that area and were too big to simple be brought there by a human being that the times those rocks were dated to would be before such things as cars, or even people.
But what they do MATCH up to are some rocks in the arctic areas.
Which in all theory, is based off the idea of Snowball Earth, a time long before life on earth where it has been said that earth was once entirely covered in ice. Some change in atmosphere caused this ice to melt creating our oceans and lakes and receeded through the centuries to reveal land masses.
The idea is that the water/melting ice itself carried these rocks to the different locations in the world before it receeded and eventually left them sitting where they are today. The tests on these rocks all showed signs of Glacial deposits, not able to be created without a form of ice.
heres an excerpt from a site i pulled up referencing this.
Quote:
We have shown how the great glacial deposits in Neoproterozoic rocks world-wide and the strata adjacent to them point to an extraordinary type of climatic event, a "snowball" Earth followed by a briefer but equally noxious ultra-warm "greenhouse" world. There is clear evidence that this sequence happened more than once, perhaps as many as four times between 750 and 580 million years ago. But what caused these calamities in the first place, and why has the biological world been spared such events in more recent geological history? One factor was clearly that the Neoproterozoic sun was weaker by approximately 6%, making the Earth more susceptible to glaciation. The slow warming of our sun since that time might explain why no "snowball" event has occurred since the Neoproterozoic, but the geological evidence is compelling that such glaciations did not occur for at least one billion years prior to the Neoproterozoic when the sun was even cooler. Recent findings by Kirschvink and his former student, David Evans, suggest that global glaciations may have occurred around 2.3 billion years ago, but not in the intervening period.


So if this may have occured 3 or 4 times, and the receeding of such ice was able to carry massive rocks and or create them, its possible in theory that atlantis could somehow have been carried off to another location in some sort of catastrophic event.
One such that i can directly link my theory to is the actual theory of how Atlantis may have been destroyed.
It is said that the people of Atlantis were an advanced race, advanced in intelligence and technology. It has been said that they had discovered a way to control the weather, And it was this that destroyed them because they were messing with it and had no idea that it could not be controlled in the manner they had discovered.
This is where the term "Don't mess with mother nature" we often hear actually comes from.
Now this could not of course be stated as fact, as not even Atlantis itself is a fact. its just another legend/theory.

But if this were applied to the theory of Snowball Earth, And they created a man made catastrophe that had somehow destroyed their race and city, if this catastrophe was connected to the snowball earth theory, it could theoretically be buried in ice somewhere up in the arctic, and with the polar caps always melting as time goes on, it would be interesting to see if that theory of Sylvias (since of course its ONLY a theory regardless of what she claims to be) actually came to fruition.

But then again, Sylvia also wrote in one of her books how she and her sister had lunch in the 60's with an "Alien" in human form. Heh.

_________________
Doin stuff thats hard to do makes the easy stuff thats hard harder than easy can ever let hard stuff be.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Atlantis - Is it Real?
 Post Posted: November 8th, 2008, 5:16 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: October 17th, 2008, 1:36 pm
Posts: 174
Location: Toledo, OH
Hey, theory or not - that's sweet! Dude, you're getting me pumped to get into Atlantis theories hardcore now. I'm gonna have to start reading up on this. Great stuff!

Sylvia Browne is delusional, haha...but I can't help but love her. She's hours of entertainment. She's the only psychic I know with a near 100% inaccuracy rate. Actually, I wouldn't even care much about her if not for her bilking people out of $700 for a friggin reading. I just take her as for entertainment purposes only. But I really feel bad for the people who have been suckered in by her.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Atlantis - Is it Real?
 Post Posted: November 8th, 2008, 5:31 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: October 16th, 2008, 2:55 am
Posts: 171
Location: Toledo, Ohio
well let it be known that when i did have cable, i only watched History, Discovery, Travel or anything of that nature. I would fall asleep watching it every night so my head is crammed with random knowledge haha.
I dont know if the snowball earth theory (tho technically it was proven to be more than a theory some time ago) and Atlantis have ever been connected, thats actually one of my own personal theories. For all we know the catastrophe would not have necissarily have to of covered all of earth in ice, Just one region. The arctic. It could have been located there all along, Or it built up enough ice to freeze it all up, and as it melted away it drifted and cascaded into the arctic from its original location. There are legends of a floating island that was never in the same place twice, it could have very well been Atlantis on course to its final resting place.
I cannot imagine all of the things that could possibly be frozen within that ice since it had such power to carry things in its flow. There could be so many things within there that we do not know about. Civilizations, Species, Items, Ships, People. If only there were a way to find out haha.

_________________
Doin stuff thats hard to do makes the easy stuff thats hard harder than easy can ever let hard stuff be.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Atlantis - Is it Real?
 Post Posted: November 8th, 2008, 5:45 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: October 17th, 2008, 1:36 pm
Posts: 174
Location: Toledo, OH
Its actually a good theory, being conceivable and all. I hope some type of discovery in my lifetime lends credence to the stories of Atlantis.

Man, I love these forums! Even though it's mostly just team members, I love to talk about this kind of stuff.


Top 
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
 
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 

Board index » Mysteries of the Unknown » Myths and Legends


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

 
 

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron